suzgreen ([info]suzgreen) wrote in [info]lugnet,
This is a portion of a draft of an announcement I'll soon make to LUGNET. The goal of the post will be to inform users of Todd's and my decision to withdraw as owners, to provide assurance that disruption will be avoided whenever possible, and to name what would happen in the worst-case scenario. There are a million other things I could talk about in such an announcement, but don't want to (at least not in this particular one) such as: reasons we came to this conclusion; reflection on how far the site has come; speculation on what the site might be like in six months, or a year, or five years...; opportunities for community input; calls for volunteers; etc. I'm trying to be frugal with words while not leaving out anything super-important. Heh, I guess I want to say as little as possible right now. Not because of keeping secrets, though there are some, or because I don't care to inform people, but because I fear saying something stupid or making a statement I'll regret.

If you go through the effort of reading this blog, I figure I owe it to you to show you what's happening because I really wanted to make my announcement on August first over at LUGNET, but I missed it. Now it's 1:00 a.m. here and I need to call it a day. that's why I'm leaving you this. ..please don't copy what's here and bring it over there. I need to arrive at a final draft and circulate that privately which could take another day.

This text isn't being put up for in-depth critique of its writing or meaning, but I will read all comments you leave. thanks. -Suz

---------- announcement: process details
Todd and I made an outline of what it means to have "handed off the site". This document is about as simple as you could possibly imagine. It's more like a list that accounts for everything and describes how we know it's not ours anymore.

There is no fancy plan to change the site. The objective is to simlpy keep things as much like they are as possible while gently handing things off. I know that leaves room for a lot of questions about the future, but, new ownership will receive a document from us containing recommendations on many things, including future development, and a set of guidelines for a new governmental structure. The community may participante to some degree in the formation of the documents.

The two servers already purchased with community donations will either be put directly into use for the website and its development, or sold and replaced with something just as good for the same purpose.

The search for new ownership has been underway. At this time I'm happy to say that there is one option which looks good for everybody. Thus-far, things look do-able, but details haven't been worked out and there are a few missing elements. I don't want to close the door on other options just yet, but I'd love to get the real ball moving.

This entire transition process needs a deadline. I'm going with October 1, 2005. At that time, I hope all will be running smoothly and I'll be on a nice vacation! But, if things on the outline I mentioned are not all squared away, I'll make, or have made, a determination about the likelihood of its execution and the degree of interruption that it might have on my life. Results of such a judgment could theoretically include the process ceasing before completion. However, an announcement would be made at least two weeks prior to any sort of shutdown. I only mention this unlikely possibility in order to be fair to you. I am human. Other people are human. There are limits.

I have a lot to do in the next two months if I want LUGNET to end up in good, capable hands with the brightest possible future. I promise I'll put forth my best effort.

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Anonymous

August 2 2005, 07:36:15 UTC 6 years ago

Draft announcement

Your draft for the announcement is fine. (or maybe I'm just in a good mood)
/Jacob

Anonymous

August 2 2005, 13:54:45 UTC 6 years ago

Hey Suz,

Great to hear that a new site owner is in the works. I was very worried before Lugnet was going to go away forever, but it feels much more hopeful after reading this post. Have fun at Brickfest!

Bruce Hietbrink

Anonymous

August 2 2005, 16:58:27 UTC 6 years ago

the picture is getting clearer..

Suz,

it looks like you are setting up a map for those after you, which is what I was wanting to see. It's been too easy to misjudge based on what gets cut and pasted online on LUGNET, so I have been waiting. Looks like it's been worth the wait :-)


Joe Meno

Anonymous

August 2 2005, 18:37:52 UTC 6 years ago

Hey Suz. Thanks for the update. I do have a question about some of this. You mention that the servers the community bought were either going to get used or sold to buy new equipment. So are the servers not already being used? I'd be curious why. I thought they were purchased a long time ago. Also, if they were not used, you said they could be sold to buy new servers. Why would you want to do that? What is wrong with the servers that were bought? I confused by all of this.

It is very obvious that the community wants to see LUGNET continue, and I am among those people. We believe in it, to the point that we gave money to get new servers. I'd love to know that the money we gave has been put to good use.

-Jeff

[info]suzgreen

August 3 2005, 02:34:42 UTC 6 years ago

I think the community would be justified in being quite irate about this, actually. I wasn't aware that the servers were not being used until a few months ago(?). I flew to Boston with the intention of getting them online ASAP. I saw to it that Todd dealt with his bits, one of which was about a domain transfer that got complicated by his Fibblesnork address going away. Matthew Miller suggested we wait the month or two for the new version of BU Linux to be released, and install that. The three of us decided it'd be worth the wait.

By my second meeting in Boston however, I began to worry that the Harvard/MattM solution might not be appealing to a new owner. I don't mean any offense to Matt or that solution, it's just that I can imagine a new owner wanting to sit on the servers themself or have a dedicated hosting service on them (like Pair). Matthew's offer to donate his time plus the free spot being under the eyes of another (non-LUGNET) volunteer who was elsewhere added up to an uneasy degree of support and security in my opinion.

I also was concerned about the proximity of the project to Todd, psychologically. MattM is a dear friend whom he sees daily. I began to think it might be better to make a cleaner break, for Todd's own sanity.

Last month, I asked Matthew to hold off on the install, even though he was excited about getting it done. The future of the site was too unclear to justify his efforts (i.e., I didn't want him to be wasting his time).

So, as for why it hadn't been taken care of earlier, I don't know. But for the past few months it's been my decision to hold off. Utilization of the servers is now a part of the larger decision-making process. I am sorry about the delays.

As for the value of the servers, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them. In my discussing possible scenarios, I merely wish to include things like: new owner decides to go with their own equipment; new owner upgrades services at Pair; or, new owner is geographically remote. BTW, we also own our server at Pair, so it is an additional piece of hardware in the equation.

-Suz

for more info:
LUGNET's hosting service from day one to the present:
http://www.pair.com/services/dedicated/
purchase of the new servers at LUGNET:
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=11525
installation of the new servers at LUGNET:
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=11538
an explaination from Lar at LUGNET:
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=11991
BU Linux. See release announcement July 15, by Matt:
http://linux.bu.edu/
a recent post of mine at LUGNET:
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=13062

[info]corwinofamber

August 2 2005, 19:47:12 UTC 6 years ago

howdy!

 
For the slightly clueless among us (myself included), what can we do to help?

Thanks,
Franklin
(LUGNet member # 402)

[info]suzgreen

August 3 2005, 07:44:43 UTC 6 years ago

Re: howdy!

That's a good question. Thanks for asking. For right now, I'd say: spread the word that this really cool online community is looking for new ownership/leadership. The more people know, the more I might hear from, and hence the better deal for the community. I worked on a little resume with summary of our situation, but didn't finish yet. I wanted to send that out as a sort of press-release.

-Suz

[info]suzgreen

August 4 2005, 19:44:45 UTC 6 years ago

Re: howdy!

There is something else. I can grant site-wide curatorship powere to a few individuals. This would allow someone to go through and clean up dead links and put in some content/features at web pages of groups where currently there is none. The job would be for a limited-time with no commitment to actual upkeep or curatorship of the groups. Anyone interested? It would be a huge help.

Anonymous

August 6 2005, 02:51:54 UTC 6 years ago

Re: howdy!

Suz -

I would be glad to help out with this.

marcnelsonjr AT gmail DOT com

Marc Nelson Jr.

[info]suzgreen

August 8 2005, 00:42:35 UTC 6 years ago

Re: howdy!

Thank you, Marc. I have turned on permissions and sent you e-mail.

-Suz
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